Dan
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09:28:26 pm on May 5, 2009 | # |
Started working on an installer for Infostore 3 for Linux that would take care of all dependencies including setting up Adobe Reader, am about 70% of the way there and then will put it up on the Infostore page. It’s not native but will definitely make the install process easier.
M@RT!N 1:39 am on May 6, 2009 | #
Dude, you know what would be nice. Infostore for the iphone. Right now I just have a HTML library which I need to manually update every time something new comes out but the OS uses the same Linux Kernel as the Mac OS so creating a program should be reasonably easy. It really is an amazing and powerful platform.
DV 5:20 am on May 7, 2009 | #
Wow,cool! Looking forward to that. I had it installed and working well, but after my laptop came back from the shop, I never bothered again.
But would be nice.
GBY for your efforts!!!
D. Johnson 6:47 pm on May 7, 2009 | #
Infostore on an iPhone would be cool, I don’t see that happening anytime soon, but eventually it could be a neat application.
Kevin 9:11 pm on May 20, 2009 | #
InfoStore for iPhone is on the to do list, but only after I finish the cross-platform InfoStore 4, which won’t be before the end of 2010. Even though InfoStore 4 will work on MacOSX, the iPhone platform is very different so InfoStore will need to be re-written from scratch and in a different language. (And… just a small correction: Mac OS does not run on the Linux Kernel
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AGV 12:07 am on May 21, 2009 | #
Infostore on the iPhone would be “cool”, but seriously, how many family members do you think have or are planning to get an iPhone. With the pricing it has and network limitations by country, I don’t see how many people would want to get one. Most people would prolly dish out 300-500 Euro for a new laptop, but not for the iPhone. So I don’t know that it would probably be so useful at this point. Maybe for us few geeks around the globe. Peace.
Dan 8:59 am on May 21, 2009 | #
If you develop for the iPhone you develop for the iPod Touch as well and the number of Family Members with an iPod Touch continues to rise.
KOB 5:59 pm on May 21, 2009 | #
I know of a lot of iPhone users in the Fam here in Japan. It’s got a cheaper pricing plan than lots of other Japanese phones. I’m paying $200 over a two year span, less than $10 a month.
All that to say, the iPhone user base for Family members in Japan is THERE and growing!
Keep me posted if something does ever develop for the iPhone.
M@RT!N 11:14 pm on May 21, 2009 | #
In our home of 7 we have 5 iphones/ipod touches. Very, very useful. Keep all word, work, music, call international for dirt cheap anywhere anytime using skype and the list goes on.
BTW Dan, the OS is the same on both devices.
Dan 11:55 pm on May 21, 2009 | #
Yeh that’s what I said above.
“If you develop for the iPhone you develop for the iPod Touch as well”
I think Kevin was saying that OSX is not running on the Linux kernel.
M@RT!N 10:51 am on May 22, 2009 | #
Sorry Dan I misread your comment
and Kevin is right of course as the Linux kernel is not used in MacOS X what I meant was the MacOS X and the iphone OS use the same kernel.
KOB 10:37 pm on May 23, 2009 | #
you know, wouldn’t it greatly simplify everything if all of infostore was online?
I mean, everyone with an iPhone has 3G access, and you can make an iPhone web-app very easily(compared to writing a whole new app for iphone, not to mention distribution).
There would also not be any cross platform issues for PC/Mac/Linux users.
Also, all the new stuff comes online anyhow, so where’s the security problem?
Updating would also be a snap compared to how it works now.
Kevin, pleeeeze, please, consider my idea!
Dan 10:52 pm on May 23, 2009 | #
Not everyone in a Family home necessarily has web access. Consider places where they still utilize dial-up and only have 1 computer connected to the Internet. Other machines may have Infostore installed but never go online.
I believe Kevin has some kind of an “online” idea incorporated into Infostore 4, but I’m not sure of the details.
KOB 4:56 pm on May 25, 2009 | #
I agree that it would be sad for the people who can’t get online to not be able to access the infostore online.
I think though, that maintaining it online in addition to slowly developing and upgrading the client software would have the greatest benefit to the vast majority of Family members.
There are already so many database solutions on the net for free. Making a few modifications would make any number of these an easily usable platform to launch online.
Debian 2:18 pm on June 1, 2009 | #
Something else that’s been cropping up, the dictionaries…
For some reason, Infostore Dictionary will, seemingly at random, be unable to find most of the dictionaries. It get’s worse though… renaming or removing certain files gives you a new random set. I’ve found that removing the Swahili dictionary means all the rest work, and consider it a fair compromise.
Debian 2:30 pm on June 1, 2009 | #
(out of order comment)
Thoughts:
I wonder if ie6 could be done without (just fakeie6), only having native riched32/20 to deal with the blank screen until refresh bug. I’ve used the winetricks ie6 overriding those two and had success, but then winetricks ie6 overrides a couple others that I haven’t tried without. Also, it seems that pictures might need another override to work this way.
Any luck with the error messages when you close the login dialog without logging in?
There’s also the error messages on occasion when updates finish installing…
Debian 3:30 pm on June 1, 2009 | #
As far as making it easy for people to install updates, I’ve found that people can get used to the idea of “Open With Infostore” when they right-click on the updates.
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path=`cd \`dirname $0\`; pwd`
if [ "$1" != "" ]; then
WINEPREFIX=”$path” wine “$1″
else
WINEPREFIX=”$path” wine “$path/drive_c/Program Files/Selensis/Infostore 3.0/English/Infostore.exe”
fi
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In case you’re wondering why I’m spamming your comment system, I have a vested interest in a well-rounded .deb being the “official offering”.
The one I made for use with the 15+ debian computers here works, minus the above-mentioned issues, so I thought I’d add to the pool of public information.
Furthermore, two way conversation is limited to here as the given email won’t do much good.
Dan 8:29 pm on June 1, 2009 | #
Hi Debian, thanks for that, Kevin actually compiled a Infostore 3.3 LX exe which is basically Infostore without the IE dependency, so that takes care of that.
I’m pretty much done the .deb and will make it available for testers, just don’t want to release to the general public.
Oh and dictionaries are an issue, I’ve just stuck with the English one but I know that won’t work for everyone, if you find a fix for that let me know.
Nice little Open with Infstore idea. I’ll incorporate that thanks.
I’m away at SMX Advanced in Seattle till Thursday morning but look for a .deb over the weekend.
Steve 8:48 pm on June 1, 2009 | #
Ooh! I want to test, haven’t had a chance to install Infostore on my newest system.
Debian 10:32 pm on June 1, 2009 | #
This sounds real good.
As far as the dictionaries, as I said, removing the Swahili dictionary seems to be the best compromise as once you do, the rest will be fine (at least I think so, I may have renamed some of the other dicts also to get it working). If that doesn’t work perhaps I can email you the dictionaries folder I have.
It’s really odd how it works though. Removing one or several dictionaries makes a difference, but then so does renaming them, and it seems totally random. Perhaps I’ll look into it a bit more…
Debian 10:59 pm on June 1, 2009 | #
Interestingly it seems that my winetricks ie6 prefix almost doesn’t have the dictionary problem, the only one that fails to load is that Swahili dictionary, so I’d guess there’s something wrong with it.
My hypothesis is that in the configurations where dictionaries disappear it’s because it fails on loading Swahili and that failure causes the rest of the dictionaries not to load.
Perhaps kevin can check if that’s a possibility…
Debian 11:34 pm on June 1, 2009 | #
As a near-perfect confirmation of my theory, I checked a windows installation of infostore and found that neither the Swahili or Swedish dictionaries are loaded. As soon as I remove the Swahili dictionary, the Swedish one loads.
Clearly the difference between wine and windows in this is the order of the files. Windows consistently gives the file list in alphabetical order, so consistently the SWAhili and SWEdish dictionaries are missing. Wine provably doesn’t give the files in alphabetical order, which accounts for the unpredictable results I was getting with renaming and removing files.
So, two problems here I’m quite sure:
1. A corrupt Swahili dictionary
2. Dictionary loading process doesn’t report errors
Paul 4:25 pm on June 2, 2009 | #
InfoStore works great using Wine Gecko instead of IE6, however InfoStore requires VML to display the embedded vector graphics in InfoStore libraries, and that is installed by doing a custom install on IE6 in a win98 bottle.
Don’t know why I bother to comment though.
D. Johnson 5:02 pm on June 2, 2009 | #
Unless you upgrade to version 3.1 or newer (which you should) and then it requires IE6 and doesn’t work with Gecko.
Zeth 12:28 am on August 24, 2009 | #
Hi all …
Dan, I think it is fantabulous that you are preparing a Linux installer for IS! Good work!!
I do like the idea as well that KOB had about online access to IS, of course as an option to the installable IS.
Debian, thanks for the heads-up on that!
I always wondered how many linux users there were in the Fam .. I hope there are more than are commenting here
Zeth 12:39 am on August 24, 2009 | #
Oh btw, I would like to test the RPM’s and DEB’s that are offered.
I personally am using Crossover for running IS … I guess I bought it early on for other Windows apps and figured i might as well just use it for as many things as possible. Thing is that now the only Windows apps I use are IS, TextAloud and Utorrent.
James 6:54 pm on January 24, 2010 | #
Hi there Dan, I’d like to get the infostore deb if possible. Where can I find it?
Mark Messenger 7:09 am on May 23, 2010 | #
Dear Dan, I’d also like to have the IS .deb
Thanks